Gay Animal uproar -

[WizardfromOz]

[Dobby]

I can't see this going down to well in the UK, Attenborough is a bit of a national treasure.

On a serious note I don't think it's intentional. Most of his shows look at how animals act generically in the wild, which tends to be male and female sexual interactions in the majority of cases. Therefore in regards to sexual interactions these will be at the forefront of his programmes.

[The Dharma Bum]

Here's another interesting article about Sir David.

http://www.news.com.au/world/humans-a-p ... 6560912596

Attenborough say humans are a plague and the population should be reduced. I agree, and think that is a more urgent subject than animals engaging in homosexual behavior.

I seriously doubt animals have the same motivations humans do in their higher functioning. So what if they exhibit homosexual behavior at times? It's probable that homosexual behavior evolved as a natural response to population pressure. All behaviors have a link to the survival of the species exhibiting the behavior in some way. My guess is any species that is under pressure (ie all of them) will exhibit homosexual behavior.

Yes, that means it's natural behavior. What it indicates is that there are too many humans.

[The Dharma Bum]

"Until humanity manages to sort itself out and get a coordinated view about the planet it's going to get worse and worse.''
David Attenborough

[Dobby]

Animals that aren't under much pressure exhibit homosexual behaviour too, such as dolphins. Whether it increases in animals that are under pressure I have no idea. But it's natural in pretty much all animals

[The Dharma Bum]

Dolphins, like humans, don't have many natural predators. Since we have introduced wide ranging legislation to protect cetaceans the main threat to their population has been removed. Furthermore, many of the species they feed on are experiencing reduced populations due to overfishing. I would surmise that dolphin populations are under considerable pressure.

It seems reasonable to suppose nature has developed a way to help control their population. The idea that some animals are "gay" is due to our projecting our perceptions of our own society to the natural world.

The truth is that humans, and many other animals are polyamorous and will screw anything.


Are these two animals committing bestiality? If you express what is happening in this picture in purely human social terms, then yes, they are. If you express it in more rational terms this is perfectly natural behavior. Even if a human is doing it.

[Bill_in_Bethlehem]

[The Dharma Bum]

An organism's conscious actions do not come into play. These things happen purely by chance. One chance set of circumstances made orgasm feel really good as an instinctive motivator, another chance set of circumstances make man on man action seem really hot to some people as an instinctive motivator. Homosexuality exists, there's no doubt about that. It stands to reason to suppose there is a function that evolved at work here.

This being the case it is irrational to discriminate against homosexuals.

Anyway, man is the first species that can consciously assess the environment and apprehend that we aren't going to make it down the road if we keep up certain behaviors. We can see that we are destroying the environment and work to change it.

Instead we waste time debating the permissibility of certain bodily functions.

[WizardfromOz]

[John Galt]