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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

Postby eric » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:36 pm

Just a few points:

1. Ohio State at least fielded 3 BCS championship teams. They were unprepared for Florida, they played a good game against LSU, and they beat Miami.
2. Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, etc... are generally in the top 20 recruiting nationally, and the former being in the top 10 pretty much every year.
3. The Big Ten has the largest fan base in the country. Hands down. Not even including Nebraska.
4. Teams like Ohio State and Michigan and whatever pull kids from the South. All the time even. They have multi-million dollar facilities. I really think you just don't quite understand how much money, and how big time football is in the midwest.
5. The reason OSU wasn't in the national championship game last year, was because of the bowl ban. They don't need to "win for 2 years to get to the title game".
6. Texas has had like 2 good seasons in the BCS era.
7. Auburn is a great story. But it doesn't really prove any points.
8. Urban won't go to Alabama. That doesn't make any sense. There are a few schools where, when you get the job, you are there until you quit or you're fired:

Texas
Alabama
LSU
Ohio State
Michigan
USC
Notre Dame
maybe a couple of others are close here like Nebraska or something

But those right there are the powerhouse football schools. Maybe some haven't been winning championships, sure, but they have the largest fan bases, make the most money, and are the most prestigious. You have this weird perception that everything is centered around Florida, but the truth of the matter is that it's just a second tier school, at best.

And Florida had a couple of good years, but the glory days are over now. A 1 loss Ohio State team basically gets a BCS bowl every year because they are a top-tier, top-caliber program. What school has been to the most BCS bowl games?

There's been a lot of turmoil in the Big ten the last few years, and they've been having problems with getting top tier assistants and stuff because of low pay, but now that's changing. Coaching changes are stopping as well. Not to mention the most difficult bowl line-up every year and whatever.

SEC is the best conference, hands down. But you're greatly over exaggerating, and obviously ill-informed about how things are on a national scale.
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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

Postby Leviathan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:45 pm

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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

Postby Professor » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:12 am

Predictions?

First, OU will beat Alabama. I hope. Not likely, but I hope.
Second, Texas loses to Oregon and Brown gets fired.
Texas offers Saban more money than God, Alabama isn't sad about letting him go (though they should be), and Saban starts wearing burnt orange.
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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

Postby Darkhorse » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:56 am

This is now a NCAA basketball thread.

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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

Postby John Galt » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:40 am

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Re: How I leaned to stop worrying and love the Tide, NCAA 20

Postby Professor » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:41 am

Another prediction for next year and the following few years:

People will hate the new "playoff" system, and will long for the BCS.

Why? Well, right now, we have 25 teams that are selected by 62 coaches, 115 Harris Poll members, and a few super-computers (programmed by a team of programmers). So literally hundreds of the most knowledgeable people about college football from across the country pick the top 25 teams. There is a lot of bellyaching about whoever #3 is, when they are left out, or when some undefeated team from a second-rate conference is left out of a BCS bowl.

Fast forward 365 days from now. Instead of 200+ people picking the top 2 teams, 13 people will pick the top 4 teams. I think that, while it'll be nice to have 4 teams instead of 2, that's not a significant change. And, I'd much rather trust 200+ people to pick the top teams, than a bakers' dozen. There is going to be bellyaching about who is #5, and there will be an undefeated team from some conference that is left out.

Of course, there will be people saying we want a REAL playoff, like the NFL. But, we should all realize that a playoff doesn't pick the best team, either. Let's say that Denver, Seattle, Kansas City and New Orleans are the "best" 4 teams this year. Well, there is certainly no guarantee that KC and Denver make it to the AFC Championship, in fact, it's unlikely. And, there are years where there 2 teams from one division are outstanding, while the entire other division is mediocre. In these years, the Conference Championship is the "game to watch".

Frankly, I think that our current system picks the best 2 teams for the championship. It has the largest base of people deciding who those teams are, and neither team can get knocked out before the Big Game because they simply happen to be in the same division or whatever.

The only change that I'd like to see to our current system is that when a lower-ranked team loses to a higher-ranked team, they don't lose positions. After all, they were ranked below for a reason - they were SUPPOSED to lose. Now, if they get blown out, then they might lose position.
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