New Xbox

[uebermann]

[uebermann]

[uebermann]

So apparently, unlike EA, as long as you have the "disc", you can play the game online without a fee. As best as I can tell from the article.

However, if its an EA game, I believe you still have to pay the fee since thats part of their schtick now.

[Spider]

"The bits are on your hard drive. At the end of the play session, when I take my disc home - or even if I leave it with you - if you want to continue to play that game [on your profile] then you have to pay for it. The bits are already on your hard drive, so it's just a question of going to our [online] store and buying the game, and then it's instantly available to play.


That says it all, I think. Every game has to be associated with an account to play, and so there is no loaning the game, as it can't be run without the associated account. You'd have to buy it to get it associated with your account. That torpedoes rentals...and torpedoes my interest in the system.

They'd have to have "jailbroken" copies of the games to distribute to the likes of Gamefly, which could be run independent of account. But of course...how could they do that...that would just be the key for piracy.

[uebermann]

Is that what it means?

I guess I don't understand then. I thought they were saying it would work as it does now, that if you had the disc or whatever you could play but if you don't have the disc you couldn't. Not that you had to buy your own copy to play.

Time will tell, I suppose. Also, I could see things changing quickly once all of this comes out.

[uebermann]

Oh wait, I see now. Its tied to the profile.

I totally missed that part.

Well yeah, totally f**k stupid. f**k you MS. f**k you.

This shit is just going to breed more piracy.

[Spider]

Could happen. Or it could be MS arrogance again, like with Win8. (Where they are now hard backpedaling)

All Sony has to do to win at this point is not this. Just let people pop in their games as they always have before, up to and including trading them or selling them freely as they see fit. Being that its their property.

MS (and EA) are trying to force everyone to pay full MSRP for every single player outside of their own user account. It sounds like even people within your own household will be forced to use the same account (I'm assuming the same save directory, same achievements, same online play username), or else buy another copy to individually associate with themselves.

They can't even claim this is about piracy. Its just that the idea of used games makes their money grubbing heads explode.

I wish people would just grow a pair, get organized, and boycott their shit.

[uebermann]

Well in that Eurogamer article, they said they are going to allow the sales of used games, though they are being totally cryptic about it a this point.

[Winchester]

How much of the DRM crap is MS and how much is because this is what the game developers want. If it's publisher driven I would think it's eventually going to affect all game platforms.

[uebermann]

I can't imagine its what the developers want. Publishers maybe. Apparently, Nintendo and Sony are making it easier than ever for indie gamers to develop on their platform, but MS is making it harder (or at least as hard as it is now).

I have a feeling MS is going to have to backtrack on a lot of this else face some serious problems with this platform. When you start having to be a computer science major to understand how to play your game at a friend's house, thats when shit has really gone too far.