New Xbox

[Spider]

Gamestop stock (which I would have considered a decent short a couple days ago) is blowing up past 6% this morning, after the MS news, despite the overall market taking a massive Bernanke-inspired shit.

[fstarcstar]

[eric]

hilarious

[Spider]

Heh. Ya, MS knew which way the wind was blowing.

I'm still pretty surprised they surrendered that quickly. MS isn't exactly famous for listening to the customers.

Now I kinda want both consoles.

[eric]

Its too bad they did. Now progression is being slowed down.

Oh well. Only a matter of time before Sony is kaput, in which case Microsoft will hopefully be able to roll out all digital content.

[Spider]

Still can't fathom why you'd think a massive company that has a diverse product line would falter on the basis of a single device, especially considering its likely to outsell its predecessor, which sold 77 million units, and was the dominant player in every market in the world but the US. Especially considering the price advantage, which has historically been the number one sales driver.

I mean...MS lost 3 billion dollars on the 360. Software sales didn't make nearly enough of a dent to cover the RROD f**k and the manufacturing costs alone. Is MS going to go under?



Sony ate a multibillion dollar loss as well, even more than MS iirc, but its kinda become the nature of this business.

All this fanboi hyperbole about the extinction of entire corporations because their device merely took a 50% marketshare. I mean, wow. 77 million units. Dominated. In America we have an extremely distorted view of the console segment because we live in the singular "Xbox bubble." Step back and look at this thing holistically and consider. Whats going to happen this generation will be just like the last one. One brand will edge out the other for a while, then it will go the other way, etc etc, and the final sales totals will probably be within a few percent of each other.

Its going to be the better part of a decade before we know what happens.

My entire problem with the Xbox 180 has pretty much been solved. If Sony outsells it, I guess that means MS is going to go under? Like...if GM sells more cars than Ford....Ford is going under? Bah. Sony's problems are more about their other market segments than entertainment. They just keep sucking at tablets and phones, in particular. They're spinning off their entertainment business in order to raise money to refocus other areas. Because their entertainment business is strong enough to pull that little maneuver. The really profitable sections of their business, movies and financial, are chugging along nicely, and the company is coming down off of a profitable quarter for the first time in quite a while. This year actually looks pretty good for Sony, if the guidance is any indication. People are kinda sitting on SNE. Looks like its going to bottom out relatively soon.

Meh. Hyperbole is.

[eric]

I think what's funny is you wrote that entire post as if it was new information.

And your graph is cute, but it actually kinda demonstrates that Microsoft turned a profit on the games division. TURNED A PROFIT. You are also failing to account for the two years prior to 360 which are included in the "total". Microsoft profits on their game division. Sony doesn't. They sold almost equal amount of consoles (Microsoft edged Sony).

And the warped view you're talking to certainly doesn't apply to me. The only location where Microsoft does piss poor is Japan, because the Japanese are racist. Microsoft won the US handily (the most important world market), and competed well in Europe.

But the key difference here is that Microsoft is in no danger, Sony is. 8 Straight quarterly losses (as recent as Feb 2013). Kinda hard to sustain a business like that.

The only thing that possibly keeps their entertainment division afloat is Sony pictures/music. Which, btw, is part of the world's leading dying industry. And, that divorces their hardware d00ds (the guys that make Playstations) from the entertainment division. You think that's a smart move?

[John Galt]

wii beat ps3 bro, with 33% more sales

[eric]

[John Galt]

well i think it's a misnomer to say they had 50% of market share. and it also wouldn't be right to say that wii had 40% of market share even though they had 40% of total sales while sony and ms had 30% each (slightly more for sony) because many people buy more than one