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Is a hack and a tool. He's going to fail, right? If he doesn't fail I lose all faith.

He's terrible, schticky and not clever at all. I hope he's gone in a year.

Well they kept Leno for 20 some years so I think your theory is flawed.

Leno is Meh but his delivery was pretty impeccable and his interviews were always at least mediocre.

Fallon is just objectively awful in every way. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

All these late night shows are garbage. Unfunny comedians doing stale material and getting the big bucks.

You guys are too young (except Win and Bill) to remember Johnny Carson sitting with the likes of Bob Hope, Dean Martin and George Carlin all sitting together on the couch next to him doing 90 minutes a night. Those were the Tonight Show gems. Everything since has been a farce. I don't need to see Fallon doing sketches with Myley Cyrus. Give me someone like Louis CK hosting and I'm in. Man oh man, his current events opening monologues would be epic.

I've watched some of Carsons shows. Somebody like that can't be replaced.

Yeah, I just don't get the attraction of them. And, I lump them in with things like SNL.

Sure, they all have a funny moment or two. But, to sit and watch every night for that once-per-year funny part?

Think about SNL for a sec. Everyone says that "it was so much better back when". But, was it really? Everyone remembers the funny bits. Belushi with his samurai sword. Carvey doing Church Lady. But, when you were watching those things in real time, you had to go through a month's worth of totally forgettable crap to get that little nugget. Basically, everything is better when it's a "best of", which is how we remember the past.

In 30 years, everyone is going to look at current SNL and say how it was so much better than what they have in 2045. They'll point to Justin's "D*ck in a Box" or something similar. But, they'll forget that we had to go through a year of crappy episodes to see that one bit.

So, back to Fallon and Leno. Leno had some funny bits, but mostly crap. Fallon will have some funny bits, but mostly crap.

Why? Because they are trying to recreate something. A copy is never as good as the original. It's why "the next Michael Jordan" is never as good as Michael Jordan. They need to scrap the idea of recreating Johnny Carson, and try something new.

Yeah, Johnny Carson and Robin Williams are the 2 best, most natural comedians I've seen in my lifetime.. There are plenty of other great comedians.. But those 2 are above all the rest.

They could have NO material, but ad lib and still be funny as hell.. It was/is a gift for those 2... Stewart is pretty good at that too..