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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:29 am

I think every reasonable precaution that is possible has already been taken. We experimented an assault weapons ban and found it lacking but we have a good regulatory system. A background check is fast and easy and I don't mind keeping guns out of the hands of criminals.

The problem behind these outbursts of mass violence, however, is a social one. These are people who have been alienated and isolated one way or another from society. Many of these people CHOSE to alienate themselves from society on purpose. If someone hates society and wants to do random people harm there is really no way to prevent it other than catching the guy on the way there.

These people are the losers of the consumerist rat race, from the the unpopular nerd at school who doesn't wear the "right" brand of clothing and gets bullied as a result to the guy who is just sick of getting abused at work. There are reasons why these things happen. If you put any individual in the right set of circumstances a violent outburst will be the result. It is simply how the organism reacts to it's environment.

The only way to stop them is really to not create them in the first place. I don't know if the American public is ready for the kind of social changes that would entail, though. A complete systemic overhaul of our culture, our society, and our economic system is in order. Our systems are failing left and right. This can only mean they are based on incorrect information. We should take a hard look at changing a lot about how we do things as a society.
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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

Postby phosphide » Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:51 am

Back onto the topic of regulating rights. No, I don't believe we should give government that power. Remember, government has powers not rights, individuals have rights. The role of government should be to protect these rights, especially since rights are conditional. You have the right to speak, but making threats is not a right since it infringes upon the safety and liberty of others. Government should have the power to prevent these situations and bring to justice any who violate the rights of others.

Government, for example, has the power to regulate the conditional usage of guns, but not regulate which guns you choose to have.

That's why government forces you to have insurance as a driver. It's there from a liability standpoint and does not infringe upon your rights since government built the roads and has the power to regulate it. We gave government that power.
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Re: Can you regulate a right and should you be able to?

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