Russian vassalization of Ukraine

[exploited]

[John Galt]

[The Comrade]

yes why am i lessening the loss of a naval base they planned on leaving for their small secondary fleet.



where oh where will russia have access to the black sea after this.

[gla22]

Sevastapol has limited strategic value today, since Russia's black sea fleet has pretty much rusted away in port. The black sea itself really isn't that strategically important, as russia has 3 other fleets with much better access to the sea. However, sevastapol has a huge symbolic importance to russia. The black sea fleet was once the pride of the russian military, and sevastapol was it's home base. When the port and city originally were built, it was one of the first signs of russias ambition as a european/world power. The city has held out under siege in historic fashion, in the crimean war and ww2. The city is ethnically russian. Most people speak russian, and hold russian passports. If ukraine wants to drift west, it's not taking an iconic RUSSIAN city with it.

[Putin]

[Putin]

Tip from pro: Buy RUSL.

EDIT: Opened at 13.50 today (9am), currently ask is 15.36 (10am). You guys would never make it as oligarchs.

[Putin]

[Spider]

I removed it because I really wanted to avoid this conversation. Thoughtless to post in it at all.

Actually, my point was that this has quite a bit further to slide in my opinion. Wait a bit if you want to speculate.

[fstarcstar]

Russia now claims Ukrainian forces need to move out of Crimea or face a military storm - Just hit the AP, waiting on link and more info.

Amazing how Russia is only there to protect its own people yet they are threatening bloodshed on Ukrainians who owned the damn place.

[Putin]