Russian vassalization of Ukraine

[gla22]

I don't think anyone said ever that Russia was stronger than the U.S.

I also think it is problematic that people believe Crimea (ethnically Russian) should be under the control of the new nationalist Ukrainain government that repealed the rights to minority languages. I'm assuming Russians like being ruled by Ukrainians as much as Ukrainians like being ruled by Russians.

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-language-lav ... lborn-627/


I also don't know why EU integration is viewed as positive while Eurasian integration is being viewed as negative. The benefits of the EU are primarily going to the banking sector and high level government employees and their friends.

[The Comrade]

only 50-60 percent of crimea is russian. the rest are ukraines and tatars. not exactly a slam dunk majority. and basing this off native language is completely misleading because ukrainian didn't even experience a revival in the west of the country until like 10-15 years ago. and even going by that, one has to assume that every single russian in crimea wants to be a part of russia, which is a big assumption.

[John Galt]

[Do5a]

[gla22]

[Do5a]

[exploited]

[The Comrade]

[John Galt]

its the right thing to back ukraine and bring them out of their pseudo democracy of the post soviet era. putin is mad because the ukraine is russia's biggest most important nation in all the nations it has influence on. in fact, the others are shit comparatively. there's 50million people there. if given the choice between war with russia to give the ukraine a chance, or letting them go to continue living under a kleptocracy, war is the humanitarian decision. but on the larger realist politic angle, i also think it's important to keep russia weak. this is simply because the people that run russia are not the same as the people who run western democracies. putins potemkin democracy (crimea's origin of the word not lost on that) is not desirable, and the west remembers russia's aggressive expansion since... oh since peter the great. roughly a belgium a year it expanded. putin's been busy trying to incorporate all his 21 constituent republics under more centralized power (like chechnya) and trying to expand back to russias former glory by making vassal states of his neighbors (kazakhstan and belarus dilopmatically, was trying for the ukraine that way but now looks like he'll have to bring them to heel like he did with georgia) in a new eurasian union, which putin said will be "built upon the best values of the Soviet Union"

[exploited]

How is this contrarian? You are the one suggesting action that nobody else is. Not a single government has even seriously suggested a military response, not even Ukraine, because a military response is stupid as f**k.

I can't remember the last time you suggested a solution that wasn't shooting someone. Seriously. That's sad.