Antonin Scalia found dead

[Dylan]

I guess. If I'm gaming the system though I'm looking for a favorable trial-level judge first and foremost, not worrying about a contingency with a very low likelihood of occurring.

[Dylan]

[Saz]

I think the greatest example of this conspiracy is QE. QE has devastated the young. Pumping up asset prices to unsustainable levels, creating wealth for those already wealthy enough to have assets and doing nothing for the rest of the economy. Now, I don't think there is some rich cabal in Switzerland plotting how to f**k everyone else over. But I think when something like the crisis comes along, wealthy people say, OH NO, my assets are depreciating, my wealth is eroding. What can I do to stop this? QE. Well what are the consequences of QE for the rest of the economy? For people who do not own a ton of assets? Well this does nothing for them, if anything it sets them back because we have this veneer of prosperity (rising asset prices) when the rest of the actual economy is making absolutely no gains (check wage growth, IE, what ACTUAL working people earn).

It's not that there conspiracy is to f**k us. Their conspiracy is to stay wealthy...even if doing so will f**k the rest of us. It's not immoral, it's human nature, and the purpose of political and economic institutions should be to check that human nature to ensure a balanced system. We have no done that, every institutional check on the wealthy has been eroded, and the militarization and surveillance of the state make it difficult, if not impossible, for the masses to engage in their most effective form of re-balancing, revolution.

There is still this belief among the elite that if we can just kick the can down the road another day, a solution will present itself. Unfortunately, that simply isn't the case. If history tells us anything it's that the longer elites bottle up and repress this sentiment, the bigger the bang when the top eventually does pop off.

[John Galt]

maybe it was natural causes.

but in texas he can be pronounced of having died of natural causes by someone who didn't see the body, or the pillow over his head. the cops just had to do a crappy job and not find "evidence" of foul play. wouldn't the autopsy reveal that? of course the clintons knew the devout catholics of scalias wouldn't want one performed. brilliant

[exploited]

Dylan, the elites don't give a shit about such trifling matters as weed legalization, or Gremlin's ravings, or anything like that. You seem to have this really weird idea that "the conspiracy" we are talking about is some sort of all-encompassing master plan that addresses any possible contingency. Nothing could be further from the truth. The elites care about two things, and two things only: controlling the narrative through media, and defining the rules of the game to suit their interests, through law and politics. If the economy crashes tomorrow, they'll make more money. If it doesn't crash, they'll still make money. If ten million angry young people flood the streets and demand a better way of life, they won't care, because when all is said and done, those young people will be going to Starbucks on their way to the free speech zone, and if they actually did anything meaningful to seize power, the entire media apparatus would deem them terrorists, violent criminals, etc. The conspiracy is a giant hedging of bets - how can we maximize our personal wealth, regardless of what the plebs on the ground do?

The idea that the wealthy are not conspiring to maintain their wealth, regardless of cost, is legitimately way more insane than the idea of FEMA camps and chemtrails. Big Oil knew about global warming since the 1980s, and they've dumped billions into suppressing that knowledge... but now that we know it's real, and people accept that, what are the consequences to them? Nothing. f**k all nothing. Because regardless of how busted they are, regardless of how f**k up they are, they know that we can't continue without them. The elites of society have altered the rules to the point where big banks can steal trillions of dollars, and we can't go after them because it will hurt the economy. Think about that.

I suggest looking up "path dependency." That's a good starting point for figuring out how conspiracies actually work.

[Saz]

To your post above mine

60 protesters - no shit they were more violently suppressed, they were far far more violent themselves. What was a prank in the 1960's would be a felony in many places today. And there were no records like you have today, when a hippie with a tye dye shirt on could lob rocks at police with no repercussions. Why do you think OWS was a f**k useless movement that accomplished nothing? Because a protest that stays within the bounds of the law, which with permitting today, basically means not disrupting anything, will not accomplish anything. Let your OWS friends throw rocks at an advancing group of riot police, or throw a molotov into Citibanks lobby. Guarantee they won't sniff anything prestigious for 10-20 years. Young people today have given up, completely, because we know the state can and will find and hunt down anyone who disagree with it.

Legalization - Yes, funny how gay rights is just a right and no state can infringe. My right to get blazed...STATE BY STATE. It's f**k bullshit, and the whole reason it's done state by state is because this is one issue where the elites do not have a broad consensus. Some wanna get blazed, others really like the fact that cops can f**k up any black guy wandering around at night. Which is why you will have legal pot in shitlib places and brutal punishments in Texas and the like.

Student loans - intended to be beneficial? Please, tell me who thought they were helping the student by making interest rates at 6-7-8%. You realize we have fukcing NEGATIVE interest rates in many places now and the government is charging students 7.9% for loans, and you think this was a good intention? A good intention would be public education...you know, like all other education until you get to college. But loaning kids an unlimited amount of money to get a degree elites DEMAND for nearly every job now, and which rises in price at 10% a year...that was a good intnetion? Again, you have lost the plot. The good intention was sending kids to college. Then the wealthy conspiracy I was talking about jumped in, and turned that good intention into a system that perpetuates inequality and reinforces the current economic hierarchy. Again, if you can pay 50k in tuition a year, who gives a shit what the interest rate is? If you have a net worth of 100 million, who gives a shit how much college really costs? But someone is making money off the 7.9% loans of kids who's parents could not afford 50k tuition. Someones kids get a huge head start in life when they don't have a ton of educational debt (thats for the pleb masses).

I still dont think you really grasp what sort of conspiracy I'm talking about here. You seem to see good intentions, bad policy, and just assume something went wrong in between. Never bothering to further examine what actually went wrong, who gains from it and who loses, and why we continue on the wrong course today when it seems apparent to most what the current course is wrong. The answer is because the rich and powerful have a vested interest in keeping the rest of us down. It's truly astounding that you can't come to grips with this obvious and basic fact of human civilization. Rich and Powerful are relative terms, and only meaningful as a measuring stick between people. A king with no subjects is just a man, a rich person by himself finds his money useless. Their very position and status is dependent on ensuring not to many others reach that same position or status, and you find it bizarre that such people actually cooperate and worth together to ensure that their favorable position is not taken away?

Seriously man, disagreeing with this is about as dumb as believing there are FEMA camps.

[John Galt]

of course they were intended to be beneficial. they were intended to help more people go to college, and they succeded in that. they forgot that colleges would be able to freely increase costs because its being paid for by uncle sam. and they haven't changed the interest rate since 2001, since congress sets them. but even still, it is a dubious prospect and it should have financial burdens if you want to do it. college isn't for, and shouldn't be for everyone. i'd be fine with different tiers with higher rates of interest at higher levels of education. meaning trade schools? 0.5%. whatever you want. undergrad? 8%. graduate? 15%. go get a job you lousy f**k.

[Dylan]

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