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cakes, flowers, whatever... these cases are coming very quickly. not two years ago when obama was still against same-sex marraige as was most of the country, advocates for same-sex marriage said it wouldn't infringe on anyone's rights. well, it clearly is.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/12/06/j ... y-couples/

a judge has forced a man to make a wedding cake for some same-sex wedding. so my question is, can he make this, charge them 5 bucks and if they don't want it, then they can somewhere else/f**k themselves?



why should someone be forced to associate with anyone for any reason? isn't that in direct violation of the first amendment? i'm pretty sure it is.

The difficulty you will have with this come from a very simple reality now. There's no such thing as private business since the inception of civil rights. If you have a store front, you are a public establishment now.

I don't agree with it, but that is what you are fighting against.

The Fifth Amendment doesn't mean the state cannot regulate business transactions. It can and does, and the power to do this has been affirmed by court after court.

Theyre going to f**k themselves regardless.

Voluntary tolerance is why we had a century of Jim crow.

That is what I'm talking about when I comment about sacrificing people to principles. You do this all the time. You don't care about substantive freedom, all you care about is theoretical freedom that follows an internal logic.

Shame.