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So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby uebermann » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:18 am

and it never really occurred to me until tonight why people keep killing me before I see them or why I get killed when around corners.

Its ping.

But, not what you think. My ISP has a straight shot to Dallas, so all of those Dallas farms, I have 10-20 ping to them. Which is normally fantastic for FPS games.

However, with BF3, not so much. Apparently the "sweet spot" is 150-200 ping on a server. Why? Because those dumb f**k use client side for part of the equation. So what happens is, I round a corner at the same time as another player, however since they have a much slower ping than I do, I don't see them. However, they see me just fine.

Result? Ghost kills.

I had no idea about this until I started looking after a guy with 200 ping was consistently killing me every single time and most of the time, on my screen, he had only barely popped around the corner and there was no way he could have seen me (no MAV, I wasn't shooting, and no motion detector).

So I went to look and see if there was some bug but found this instead.

Bad idea and I'm not going to buy BF4 because of this. Ridiculous. So, my option is to either keep getting killed by people with high ping because I can't see them, or play on European servers where I'm the guy they can't see and I kill them.

I don't really like either option.

Just an "up all night" rant =P
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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby uebermann » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:20 am

Oh and apparently the p90 is the best weapon to use doing this because of the fast rate of fire - they are basically guaranteed kills before the person on the other end can see you.

And this guy (and his friend), both with exact same ping, both using the P90. Dumb shit.
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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby PoS » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:23 am

Play Planetside 2, you can get by with a crappy or good ping.

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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby Spider » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:55 am

Ya, PS2 is a fun bet.
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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby PoS » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:09 am

What server and faction are you in, Spider. I wanna kill you. :)

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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby Spider » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:09 am

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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby uebermann » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:37 pm

I dunno, I think these games are just too cartoony for me. I mean, I was watching a guy haul ass around with a big ass bolt action sniper rifle and he was 1 shotting people left and right while jumping in the air and shit.

I remember playing games like Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear and when you shot someone in the leg, they would limp around and shit. And you didn't get your health back and start running normal again. There's an element to that which I miss I suppose. The game was a bit slower paced and much more realistic.

I see all kinds of bullshit in BF3 that just makes you go "uh huh". Like the time I got killed from 100 or so yards away by a guy with a shotgun. And I'm like no f**k way did a guy with a shotgun just kill me from that far away. And he's all "I have slugs. totally doable."

Bull. shit. I don't care what "round" you are using, you aren't going to kill someone at 100+ yards away with a shotgun like that. Just not happening.

Regardless, he just sat there spamming rounds (with an ammo box at his feet) and was racking up kills without any skill whatsoever. Just spamming shotgun.

There also seems to be a rampant amount of cheating going on. I saw a sniper spin 180 and shoot someone in the head from nearly half the map away the second the guys head popped up around the corner. I had been targeting the sniper when it happened and the guy that got shot called bullshit in chat and I told him it was for sure an aimbot. I mean the guy had something stupid like 87% accuracy and was lvl 6. I'm like ok yeah, his other account got banned so now he has a new one.

And most of your teammates are utter retards that never look at the map. I was spotting using the recon (sniper) with the MAV and I watched a group of guys just get wasted by a group of 3 enemies that I had been sighting and calling out in chat. They didn't have clue one.

I'm sorry, but I think that just all around games are easier to "master" these days and the games cater to people with ADHD and f**k morons. I keep looking for new games to play online that don't suck and there's not very many out there. I keep looking back at the ones that were the best and wonder why the hell all of the features are gone and why everything is so f**k weak.

Seriously, BF3 is like playing Quake but with a different game engine. But same f**k mechanics.

I see people take grenades from the launcher to the face and run off. I see people shoot RPGs at people 10 feet away and not only does the RPG explode (which, it shouldn't at that range), but then they walk away from it. I'm like yeah if an RPG blows up 10 feet away from you, you're not going to be walking away from it.

Just no realism at all in these games. Its just ez-mode shit for kids.
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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby Spider » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:47 pm

Well, I don't have a problem with unrealistic damage from weapons. Everyone getting killed by a single bullet to the torso just makes for a slow game where everyone crawls around and hides trying to zap each other from cover. Like IRL.

One of the best things about Quake for example were those fantastic circle strafing rocket fights, with the slow moving rockets, which could go on and on and on...great fun. Plus...those games were literally two or three times faster paced that your Halo sort of thing, which of course had to be slowed way down to balance the lack of a mouse and keyboard.

The mechanic I really hate is this thing where you take damage...hide for a few seconds...and go back to being good as new. I much prefer the hit point/powerup model. Made for quite a bit more tactical thinking. You could actually count your hits and plan accordingly, since you had a running estimate of the enemy's health, and an idea of their need to retreat and find a powerup. They couldn't just hide behind a crate and negate the 15 bullets you just pumped into them.

There is still Team Fortress 2. Gobs of people still play it, and its better than ever.
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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

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Re: So I've been playing some BF3 lately

Postby uebermann » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:54 pm

I don't have a problem with fast paced games, I just want to see some that are not fast paced. And today, pretty much every game is set to EZ MODE. Shit started going that way with WoW and it hasn't slowed down.

People bitch, moan, and whine if they have to have any sort of patience or use any kind of strategy. Its all about 64 Rambos running around being...Rambos.
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