Organic farm SWATted down

[Charai]

Yes. Its not a complicated concept really, police will be less likely to use deadly or unnecessary force if the other party isnt believed to be armed.

Of course, you have gone full nutjob, so you probably think the government is actually scared of you and your 9mm.

[eynon81]

[exploited]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the individual interpretation of the Second Amendment virtually guarantees an overreaching and excessive police force, and is frequently used to justify the militarization of police (as Charai has pointed out).

I can assure you that if the Second Amendment was exercised through a national militia, run by citizens and with regulatory powers over guns, you'd have a force not only capable of standing up to government, but you'd have a strong regulatory body that would implement common sense gun control laws.

The Switzerland model desperately needs to be imported to North America (and slightly modified). In one fell swoop, you'd be able to decrease the size of the military, train and arm your populace, increase the ability of all citizens to defend themselves from state and non-state actors alike, and actually have a meaningful relationship with an Amendment that has categorically failed to do what it is intended to do.

[The Dharma Bum]

[Charai]

[eynon81]

[eynon81]

[Charai]

[Professor]

As usual, this thread has also devolved into an anti-establishment circle jerk. Seems these days that most people on here are fully against something while a few other people will be fully for it. No room in the middle for measured and intelligent discussion.

As I said, the police probably overacted. But, these people were also in the wrong.

I guess that "logic" and "common sense" really don't have a place here anymore. So sad.

[Charai]