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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:48 am

How is a non sequitur? You want an unequal social relationship to exist so you can benefit from it.

You've said as much here.
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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby Spider » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:55 am

Hmmm. Clearly since you disagree with my opinion, you must:

A: Not understand what I'm saying. If you were enlightened like me, you'd never disagree.
B: Be mentally ill. If you weren't crazy, you'd never disagree.
C: Be brainwashed: If the Conspiracy hadn't suborned you, you'd never disagree.


...or...I may possibly be wrong? My opinions might be subject to reality, as opposed to being definitive of it?

No! I mustn't fall into that pit! There's no bottom!

Clearly you must spin the wheel, Dharma! My sense of infallibility depends on it! @-)
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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:20 am

Well you definitely don't understand the concept of primeval accumulation of capital, which refers to the cumulative effect of the efforts the human population throughout the course of it's existence and not a "cavemen inventing the wheel", which btw IS a non-sequitur. For if by caveman you are referring to archaic homo species those species are not taken into the analysis of industrial production I'm using.

History didn't begin 4000-6000 years ago when "cavemen" suddenly learned agriculture and built cities. There are nearly 200K years in the period between archaic homo, the bulk of human history, and the first civilization. It was during this period that the massive accumulation of humanities social capital was generated. Our rapid progress with civilization in the last few thousand years is built on the tip of that mountain of accumulated capital. This is what we mine for the the ore that makes possible our amazing existence.

We are standing on the shoulders of giants to see this far.
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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby Spider » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:45 am

So...you've chosen A, then?

(That's all common knowledge btw. You keep saying this stuff over and over, as if its some new revelation, but anyone with a 9th grade education is right there with you, and has been for all of living memory. The issue isn't the basics you preach, its the ideologically motivated misinterpretation of them.)
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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:06 am

At least you now accept the principle of primeval accumulation of capital as fact.

Since you are the one that says they think it is ok to screw everyone else over for your own benefit maybe it's not me that is preaching the ideologically motivativated misinterpretation of commonly understand facts.

Eh?
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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby Spider » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:37 am

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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby Spider » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:57 am

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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:13 am

pffft You disparage "my" application of the concept because your unconscious philosophical goal is to maintain a unequal social relation and class discrimination according to the sociopathic reasoning you shared with us in this very thread and "my" application shows this for the unethical analysis it is.

(It's not "my application" of the concept btw, it's part of the standard Marxist analysis of production)

What I am saying is that if the knowledge of the theft of the primeval accumulation of capital from humanity by a few private individuals is part of the basic knowledge you use to form your personal philosophy how is it that you support things you do?

You reasoning here has to be "Wouldn't cost me tho".
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Re: Would you screw over the nation for your personal gain?

Postby exploited » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:28 am

You f**k. Take this shit outside.
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