The Fox News Lie Machine On The ACA

[spacemonkey]

[The Dude]

What's the cost of the government paying for it?

[spacemonkey]

[The Dude]

[Indy]

Something just occurred to me on the bus home tonight. We've been told how Obamacare is a disaster that's going to destroy America, it's going to bankrupt the country, it's the worst thing since slavery and of course it's the beginning of communism/socialism and probably the End Times.

So why did that not happen in... Massachusetts? Um, hello? They've been doing this for years.

Last time I checked Boston wasn't a burning crater and in fact, Romney used to talk this up since it was his doing, until Obama wanted to do it.

Then all of a sudden it was the face of evil (yet ANOTHER massive flip-flop that people forget about).

That said, and considering that the individual mandate was a Republican idea and people like Newt were for EOL counseling before they were against it, that tells me that actual health care isn't the issue--it's merely the wrapper for all the insane fears and hatreds these people have for the man and "the left."

Always remember that: the GOP was totally down for this... until Obama wanted to do it. Nobody can run away from that.

[Ben Huh]

[spacemonkey]

I just think we should try to use what we already have first. If they want to change the name from medicaid to Obama care. Who cares? Pay into medicaid and have no access, then, at the same time pay into another plan (Obama care or whatever) seems like a plan made by fools to me. Why? Because paying into two plans is foolish.

[Indy]

I'm not defending Obamacare as-is. It can be tweaked. Do what works. Other countries do it, and we can't? I can't believe that.

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[The Comrade]

can you explain to me, in a manner that isn't linking to random blogs, but actual sources, why canada is incapable of performing emergency neurosurgery BECAUSE OF their healthcare system?