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Postby uebermann » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:52 pm

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Re: Impeach Obama!

Postby Leviathan » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:57 pm

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

This is actually true. What the government did in the Chrysler bankruptcy was unprecedented and basically ignored basic rules of priority to give union and pension funds a disproportionate share of the equity in the new company. Arguments can be made that this was necessary to restructure the company, given that bankruptcy law requires significant classes to approve of any reorganization plan, and the unions and pensions may have objected to any plan where they didn't get a significant stake. However, there is also the argument that the government and courts just flagrantly ignored the law to redistribute shares of a restructured Chrysler from bondholders and creditors to unions and pensions. A cynic among us would point out that there are strong political incentives for a new democratic administration to do this.
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Re: Impeach Obama!

Postby The Dharma Bum » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:39 pm

If the government has to bail a business out then it should become worker managed. Private profit is the least important component of the industrial equation and really signifies nothing other than a drain on productive capability for no gain.If this weren't true there wouldn't ever be a need for a bailout.
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Re: Impeach Obama!

Postby The Comrade » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:49 pm

given the first eight or nine of those are complete bullshit i'd say calling them all bullshit would be a safe bet.

also you should call that guy an idiot.
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Postby The Comrade » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:50 pm

"first president to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists"

lol?
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Re: Impeach Obama!

Postby uebermann » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:12 pm

Its Texas man - when it comes to Obama, all rationality is gone. People want to believe all of these things about Obama - they could care less if its true or not.
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Re: Impeach Obama!

Postby Leviathan » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:33 pm

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Re: Impeach Obama!

Postby Darkhorse » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:34 pm

You should tell him to join PCF,

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Re: Impeach Obama!

Postby Medius » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:06 pm

There's quite a few of them, don't have all of the answers, but here are a few.

-First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
False on the aid as a foreign student, but true on denying he was a foreigner.

-First President to have a social security number belonging to another man, from a state he has never lived in.
False on having a social security number belonging to another man, true on having one from a state he never lived in due to a typo (96814 Hawaii, 06814 Connecticut).

-First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
True, 2011 was the first time the US ever had lower than an AAA rating.

-First President to violate the War Powers Act.
False, Clinton violated the War Powers Act in Kosovo

-First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
True.

-First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
Likely to be true soon.

-First President to spend a trillion dollars on "shovel-ready" jobs when there was no such thing as "shovel-ready" jobs.
False in fact, true in some sense. The dollar amount is way off, but the jobs didn't really materialize as suggested.

-First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
True

-First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
Probably false, there doesn't seem to be any such executive order.

-First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. including those with criminal convictions.
False.

-First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
True, BP

-First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
True, not sure this has ever happened before.

-First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.
False, Nixon.

-First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
False, it is still on.

-First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
True.

-First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
Not sure what this is in reference to, but it would still be incorrect. Woodrow Wilson removed a First-Class Postmaster in violation of a law that he found to be unconstitutional.

-First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.
?

-First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
True.

-First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
False in essence, there's nothing in the oath of office that conflicts with suing a state and the oath is to the constitution, not to the states themselves.

-First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
?

-First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
?

-First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
?

-First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
?

-First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
?

-First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.
?

-First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
False.

-First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
Meh, Truish

-First President to go on multiple "global apology tours" and concurrent "insult our friends" tours.
False.

-First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.
?

-First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife. First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
False, not the first.

-First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.
?

-First President to repeat the Holy Quran & tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
False.

-First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they "volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences."
?

-Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.
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-First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs. Arizona).
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Re: Impeach Obama!

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