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Postby Darkhorse » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:15 am

Which works of art from the past 14 or so years (2000 onwards) do you think will be considered "classic" by our children (or children's children for you old timers)? I'm thinking about music in particular, but it could be anything from books to movies to performance art involving genitals. Will the most popular art of our day become the next generations old school classics or will it age poorly? Does the underground stuff catch on? And what trends will the new disco?

Looking back through the billboard charts it's pretty clear that many of the most popular songs will not become classics. Most of the Hot 100 from 5 years back are no longer popular, many are very unpopular. Similarly, The 60s and 70s stations on SiriusXM radio is full of one hit wonders and popular music that has aged very poorly. For every Velvet Underground and Frank Zappa, you get a Glen Campbell and The Carpenters. Artists that were too easy to "get" seem to become dated.

Classic artists tend to have more than one good album and achieve at least some mainstream success. They're also pretty talented musicians usually, not some pretty face the label taught a couple chords. Classic music isn't stuck in a certain year or decade. A lot of hippy music is unlistenable these days because the government stopped lacing the drinking water with LSD for research. They probably aren't your favorite artists but they're at least respectable.

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Radiohead - Kid A, Amnesiac, Hail to The Thief, and In Rainbows. Pretty much guaranteed to become classic. With the exception of Pablo Honey (1993), they've released nothing but good albums. I'll be very disappointed if Radiohead isn't our Beatles.

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Tool - Lateralus, 10,000 Days. Half of their best albums were released in the 1990s, but they still qualify. Lateralus (and Aenima) is a top metal album but still had a lot of mainstream appeal. They exist outside of space and time. I'm not really a fan of Opeth, but they'll probably become classic too.

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Arcade Fire - Funeral, Neon Bible, and The Suburbs were all great albums. They've received a lot of mainstream attention between all the radio plays and Grammies, but I don't think they ever became overexposed. Each of their albums has had its own unique sound.

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The Roots - Game Theory, How I Got Over, undun. The bulk of their best work came in the 1990s, but they've been consistently good in the new millennium as well. For whatever reason, a great deal of hip hop ages poorly, but The Roots always sound good. Maybe it's the instrumentation. They're Jimmy Fallon's house band, but somehow they've managed to avoid selling out.

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Animal Collective - Sung Tongs, Feels, Strawberry Jam, and Merriweather Post Pavilion. Their last album sucked, but they had a pretty solid run of quality records before it. Achieved some degree of commercial success, but never really became mainstream. Psychedelic, folky, poppy, electronic, always interesting.

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The Black Keys - Thickfreakness, Rubber Factory, Brothers, El Camino. I didn't think any of their albums were amazing, but they've been consistently good. They've got mainstream appeal and a recognizable sound. Besides The White Stripes (another classic band IMO), there isn't anyone doing blues rock these days.

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Kanye West - The College Dropout, Late Registration, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. He has made some great albums, but he is definitely way overexposed. I wonder if he'll be able to f**k up his own legacy. Anyways, those three albums were great. His new one is Meh, but MBDTF is an outstanding album that makes up for it. He seemed to have a better perspective on things back then.

Other likely future classic musicians: The National, Electric Wizard, Wilco, Bon Iver, Agalloch, Sufjan Stevens, Jay Z, Fleet Foxes, Sigur Ros, and Queens of the Stone Age. Not many female artists in my list: Regina Spektor maybe? Most of my favorites are from the 1990s. Joanna Newsom, if so many people didn't have a problem with her voice (which is lovely) would be a candidate; she is perhaps the best modern songwriter. MF DOOM and all his alter egos really deserve to be a classic, but I'd guess that he stays relatively unknown.

Or maybe I'm wrong and all our kids listen to Mumford & Sons.

Maybe I'll do one on films later. I'm interested in seeing what you guys predict.
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Re: Modern Classics

Postby exploited » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:18 am

I agree with that list. All of those artists have had a big enough impact to weather the years.
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Re: Modern Classics

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Re: Modern Classics

Postby Leviathan » Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:58 am

Gla-22 hit the nail on the head. If you play levels anywhere in 20 years everyone my age would go wild. That's a classic. On the other hand, I don't think i've ever heard anyone mention the public collective out loud in public. Ever.

The top is gonna be mostly rappers TBH.

Kanye def should be on there. The scope and depth of his work i think is unlatch. Never not released anything fresh and awesome.
Jay-Z needs to be on there. I can think of no bigger classic than 99 problems.
Eminem. Every guy my age knows old school Eminem. In 20 years you will probably be able to find some lyrics from Stan is half of divorce filings.
Tiesto. The Sasha of our age.
Daft Punk. Discovery...brilliant.
Wildcard I'm giving to Taylor Swift. She did great at the VS fashion show and is probably has more fans than every other country artist combined.

If you look at your list none of them except Kanye and maybe arcade fire could be classics. Literally everyone knows smells like teen spirit, but i bet less than 5% of people my age could tell you the lyrics to any Radiohead song. Floyd and Zeppelin sold 200M+ albums each. What number is tool at?
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Re: Modern Classics

Postby eric » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:17 pm

Radiohead. The First minute of Creep is insanely good.

And if you listen to a song for 20 seconds than change it you're an idiot. Listen to the whole song goddamnit
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Re: Modern Classics

Postby The Comrade » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:21 pm

it's mostly going to be soulless crap that is considered classic.
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Re: Modern Classics

Postby exploited » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:28 pm

Radiohead had sold 30 million albums and still have a long career ahead of them.

Tool has sold 15 million.

These bands are both staples in just about every rock scene there is, and they aren't done yet. They will most certainly be classics.
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