Never forget, this is what we allow to happen to people

[Professor]

[Gnostic]

There's no taking on NK militarily without a major disaster of some kind being perpetrated on Seoul. The NK has hundreds of artillery batteries hidden away in the mountains trained on Seoul and they do have the capability of turning it into a "lake of fire". There's not alot that can be done about it besides carpet bombing every inch of those mountainsides. That's not to mention the size of their army and manpower, sapping, tunnels, infiltrations, etc.

An all-out military invasion of Nk is out of the question. Unless they get so worn down economically that their army gives up immediately after commencement of hostilities.

The only way to approach them is diplomatically, which is finally coming about. My honest opinion is that they will eventually lose more support financially from a more liberalized China and will eventually see the need for reform.

[The Comrade]

most of that artillery is from the korean war. there's almost no chance any of it still works.

[exploited]

I think that Com has a good point, but you have to remember a few things:

1. With proper maintenance, those artillery pieces would work.

2. The NKians have been replacing the older artillery with 240mm guns for years, and the SKians have witnessed them being installed all along the front lines.

3. Artillery is very basic tech. A country that can develop shitty nukes with a crazy embargo is more than capable of maintaining and procuring working artillery.

Seoul would be heavily damaged, but it wouldn't just disappear or be flattened. Plus it all assumes that the war starts unexpectedly and with the benefit of surprise.

[gla22]

North Korea will never risk committing an act of aggression that would necessitate total war with the U.S, South Korea or China, it would mean total destruction.

However the U.S. and South Korea will never risk militarily trying to topple a North Korea. Although we easily could topple north Korea the consequences could be immense. The risks are high especially with a nuclear Korea and I doubt the U.S. has very good intelligence on North Korea. In todays world the U.S. is not likely to act with so many risky unknowns.

[Professor]

I agree. Which brings us back to page 1.

What action could we (the US, SK, China, and/or rest of the world) take, that is different from our current course, regarding North Korea that would result in a better outcome for either North Koreans and/or the rest of the world?

[Leviathan]

[The Comrade]

[Gnostic]

[exploited]