Why is the West supporting an apartheid vision of Israel?

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Would you like me to quote the conclusions of those historians... Conclusions you conveniently left out?

The first historian:

He argues that the modern national identity of Palestinians has its roots in nationalist discourses that emerged among the peoples of the Ottoman empire in the late 19th century which sharpened following the demarcation of modern nation-state boundaries in the Middle East after World War I.

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The second historian:

However, this does not make Palestinian identity any less legitimate: "The fact that Palestinian nationalism developed later than Zionism and indeed in response to it does not in any way diminish the legitimacy of Palestinian nationalism or make it less valid than Zionism. All nationalisms arise in opposition to some "other." Why else would there be the need to specify who you are? And all nationalisms are defined by what they oppose."[12]

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The third historian:

Even the concept of Arab nationalism in the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire, "had not reached significant proportions before the outbreak of World War I."[13]

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The fourth historian:

Pipes argues that with the carving of the British Mandate of Palestine out of Greater Syria the Arabs of the new Mandate were forced to make the best they could of their situation, and therefore began to define themselves as Palestinian.

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Literally every single historian you underlined came to my exact conclusion: that the Palestinians considered themselves a distinct people and desired a state no later than 1920. It is all there for people to read. There is no use lying about it.

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[The Dharma Bum]

Instead of pointing fingers lets think of solutions that could work.

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The Israelis have worked hard to ensure that they are no longer at the mercy of the great powers of the world. You aren't getting them out of Palestine, they are too strong and in this world might makes right.

This is the reality of the situation.

Now what can be done about the Palestinians that will be beneficial to humanity?

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The region needs to be stabilized first. That is the only way to get each side to back down from their war footing.

1. End sanctions on Iran. Sell them a couple nuclear reactors. Allow them to develop nuclear weapons OR demand that Israel and Pakistan disarm... Aid to either country becomes conditional upon disarmament.

2. Phase in the right to return. 10 years for 2.5 million Palestinians. Another 2.5 million over 10 years upon completion of Phase 1.

3. Sanctions on Iraq and Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Syria for continued weapon shipments to the Palestinians. Either this dries up or we put some serious harm on them.

4. An United Nations administered Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty. City council is composed of two elected Jews and two elected Muslims and one elected Christian. Military and police forces are integrated and composed of various religions and nationalities.

That's a start.

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I don't see how that forces Israel to do anything. If they cannot agree to simple compromises they might as well just annihilate the Palestinians and be done with it.