Should we save California or should they wither of thirst?

[eynon81]

[John Galt]

[Professor]

[The Comrade]

if those municipalities agree to ship their water. las vegas has been fighting this battle with the last oasis town in nevada over the same thing.

[Professor]

[John Galt]

yes you're right people will want those things, but they should reflect the high premium of being grown in a desert environment. northern san joaquin valley (well, northern california, in general) should be okay -- they usually get enough water themselves -- but south in the valley and everywhere else in the state has quite the thirst. scaling back on farming, on golf courses, etc i think will be necessary.

the colorado river has 70% of its water diverted to cropland. it delivers water to 30 million people. the way it does that is by humans damming it at multiple places to create reservoirs and then we drink from the reservoirs. lake mead has lost 130ft since the year 2000. the reservoirs will dry up and then what? they will look elsewhere for more water. my point is... they've already taken enough

i dunno if you get the commercials where you are but california dairy producers spend money proclaiming how happy cows are from california. well, in the hottest enviornments cows need 2 gallons of water a day per 100lbs. and if they are lactating? they need 4 gallons of water a day per 100lbs. cold environments need 1 and 2 gallons, respectively, give or take. and that's just for the cows themselves. there's also the food that needs watering, there's all the cleaning of stalls and whatnot that needs to be done, bathing, everything with the cheese making processes that need water, etc. sure, they can be outside munching on grass all year long whereas in wisconsin they are in barns eating hay stored for the winter. but they are expensive to maintain, and for what? there's no reason i can think of why california is a better environment for making cheese. if water becomes more scare, more expensive, that dairy business will shut down out of there. it'll be a shock for them, sure, which is why weaning them off of it now is better than when one day the lakes are dry and the colorado is mud

[gla22]

Just raise the price of water. If you haven't noticed 50% of CA homes have pools and there is some very water intensive farming going on. The rice farmers will just have to go under.

[The Comrade]

how do you raise the price on a commodity that doesn't exist/won't exist soon?

[gla22]

[The Dude]

You guys don't understand the california water situation at all. We have more than enough water for the people of the state. Like, it's not even f**k close.

Most of California's water is used to going to the farmers to make food for the rest of the nation. If you don't want to give us water, fine. We don't have to move anywhere, we'll be fine. But you can kiss your avocados, walnuts, etc goodbye.

Oh, and have fun paying a ton of money for animal meat. Nearly 10% of the nation's comes from us.


Let me put it this way. If we only use water for ourselves and to feed ourselves, we'd have excess water. We have a drought and it will hurt our overall economy, but no one will ever have to move and we'd be just fine if you want to cut us off. But expect your prices to rise quite a bit, a lot more than just providing us with water.