Russian vassalization of Ukraine

[The Comrade]

awh don't try to act above the fray when you're being a turd a few posts before. it's not any fun that way.

[exploited]

[The Comrade]

please don't compare yourself to kane, it's insulting to him and it shant be tolerated.

anyways, what i said was related. you've disagreed with everyone's opinion on ukraine, regardless of where it falls on the realistic vs idealistic spectrum of foreign policy. you are a contrarion. there's really nothing controversial about that statement. i could agree with everything you've said right now and you'd have to fight the urge to not find a reason to argue with it. and the fact that your only position is post-hoc only hammers that point home.

i mean spider suggested he wouldn't support war unless something serious happened and the rest of NATO was involved. your response was becoming completely unhinged.
me and galts is to stop them now: unhinged
kane has had probably the most depressingly realistic take on the whole situation and on our foreign policy in general. as in, he's discussed what actually will/is happening: totally unhinged

you aren't having a big boy discussion, you're having a temper tantrum with kane and, surprise, strawmanning the hell out of him.

this has been a PSA from the PCF Poster Improvement Board™

[The Dharma Bum]

[The Comrade]

you have very low standards then

[exploited]

My opinion is that the West should stay out of it militarily, whether Russia takes Ukraine or Crimea. This hasn't changed, and I've never once deviated from this opinion.

Oddly enough for a contrarian, this happens to also be the opinion of every major power on the planet. Which is why while you were drunkenly suggesting we bomb Russia, people who actually matter were taking the cautious route, which is to use diplomacy and international pressure to bring an end to this crisis.

It's funny to watch you squirm horribly to justify why you decided to come in here and start trolling. Just go away. Stop talking. The discussion was interesting and productive, now it is just you behaving like a child.

[The Comrade]

[Kane]

[exploited]

My position has been the same since day one, so it isn't post-hoc. Do you even know what that word means?

Kane decided to post "Hahahahahahahahahahahaha," as a response, so I was rude back. Deal with it. I know you're desperate to suck his internet dick, but since Kane actually has a spot at the big boy table, he is more than capable of defending himself.

[Kane]

Well, maybe I just expect more out of you, but some of your points have been severely lacking. They were predictable and unrelated to the topic at hand.

Sovereignty to you appears to be defined by Merriam-Webster. Sovereignty to me is defined by the government that occupies the artificially constructed borders. If I was to respect sovereignty in the strictest sense I'd be bound to avoid any action on Rwanda (We did f**k all anyways but that's beside the point) and any other future endeavors either in the name of the state or of humanitarian causes. Ever wonder why the UN is so hamstrung? Because everybody uses it to throw their dick around and fight like they're debating in a lecture hall or something. It's just a place to talk.