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Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascists?

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby John Galt » Wed May 07, 2014 10:22 am

are you calling abraham lincoln a fascist?

and a followup: do you know what a fascist is?

also if the party leader says they are not anti-semetic (which as a side note, and related to the previous two queries, is actually not related to fascism!) then they are not. just because donald sterling is a democrat doesn't mean that the democratic party is racist. it means donald sterling is. i am sure there are racist people in that party; there are racist people in every party. you putin apologist
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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby exploited » Wed May 07, 2014 10:24 am

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby John Galt » Wed May 07, 2014 10:26 am

could turn into this i suppose viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3360&start=33#p164328

none of what you posted talked about how they were implementing fascism. so why call them fascist other than to be a putin apologist or because you have no idea what fascism is?
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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby exploited » Wed May 07, 2014 10:33 am

Generally speaking, Galt, fascism is used colloquially to describe far-right ultra-nationalist groups with racist tendencies. As I've pointed out, the European Parliament, the NATO parliament, as well as numerous human rights and Jewish organizations have described Svodoba as racist and xenophobic, and they have always been far-right and ultra-nationalist. So... I'm pretty sure the insistence that fascism has to refer to the socioeconomic model of fascism is pretty stupid, or just trolling.

And of course this party occupies some of the most important posts in the Cabinet of the new government. So kindly address the points or GTFO.
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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby John Galt » Wed May 07, 2014 10:43 am

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby eynon81 » Wed May 07, 2014 10:51 am

I don't think they're fascist in the political sense, maybe in the popular sense. They are ultra-nationalist and hate commies/russians...but there's a pretty good context for that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

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fought the Soviets until 1956!

(besides considering how fascist we are becoming in a political sense, who are we to judge?)
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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

Postby John Galt » Wed May 07, 2014 10:54 am

you have no point. i answered the question: no it isn't comprised as fascists, only exploited and the putin lovers gang think that 4 people in the entire government are "fascists" (which in turn means that the "government actually composed of fascists" in exploited bizarre world where 4 ministers == the government) when in reality they are just dicks. this isn't to say that the ruskie friends over in eastern urkaine aren't a bunch of racists too, after all, they distributed pamphlets to jews to tell them to gtfo. does this make them fascists? no. does it make them racists? absolutely.

look, you're wrong

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Re: Is the Ukrainian government actually composed of fascist

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