Iraq just unliberated a bit of itself

[Saz]

Haha nope. I very much remember these debates because ironically the inability of religious zealots to participate in democratic societiy is one of the few positions I advocate for and actually believe. I remember this entire forum save a few posters were all high and mighty on democracy back during the Arab spring. Religious idiots cannot establish, or sustain a democratic society long term. You guys wanted to dispute that for years. Even today robot still wants to pretend these idiots aren't backwards.

They are incapable of democracy. Period. Most of you still haven't accepted that and pretend like there is a distinction between the good democrats and the bad. There isn't. From day one everyone knew this war would devolve into some jihad again some infidels. Assad, Saddam, Mubarak...they were our best and only line of defense against these people. They did the dirty work, and NONE OF YOU HERE defended them in the middle of the Arab spring. Not one. You all were busy being on the democracy bandwagon. And now that that's obviously wrong, you hopped off.

I truly do wish franz were here. He may be wrong but he wasn't a bandwagoner. I would love to hear his defense of the Arab spring or rebellion now. Instead I'm suck with you in creative and spineless lot, who refuse to stand by positions you spent pages ranting about back in 2011.

[eynon81]

[eynon81]

[Saz]

[exploited]

Yeah I was always deeply cynical about Arab Spring. Not sure where Saz is getting this stuff.

[Saz]

[Saz]

[Lobster]

Can I have a link to this thread? Or some quotes at least? Not that I think you're biased, but that would probably give more weight to your perspective on other people's purported flip flopping.

[Professor]

[Saz]