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Postby Gigi Von Tran » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:24 pm

I think Joe's been tagged because Hillary has been weakened. I'm on the fence about him running, but the field of democratic candidates is pretty thin, so this could be his time if he so chooses. I just don't think his heart is truly in it. Truth be told, I've felt for a long time that we could see a President Beau Biden, but that's not going to happen now.
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Re: Joe Biden...will he or won't he? yeah or nay?

Postby John Galt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:29 pm

i think obama wants joe to run, to continue obama's policies. i think obama and hillary, while they did work together, are not quite allies... which is why the fbi is investigating hillary and obama just says his hands are tied on it (as if that's stopped people in power if they really wanted to stop investigations). i think because of these things joe will run, and he's got a good chance of getting the nomination.

unfortunately for joe, for a running mate he's going to make a critical mistake. elizabeth warren. she's a liability (she's a known liar and hypocrite) and will sink him, as affable as joe is

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Re: Joe Biden...will he or won't he? yeah or nay?

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Postby John Galt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:45 pm

warren is popular among a certian crowd, which is why i think he would lean towards her as a running mate: 1, she's a woman, and 2, she preaches socialism. but the problem is that she'd have to answer questions she right now doesn't. like why did she say she was a minority native american, and how can she justify her positions on the banks -- for which she is most well known -- with the fact that she gained her fortune to begin with by buying and flipping foreclosed houses, profiting off the misery from banks on people, something she rails against now. that's why i think she's a liability.

hillary would never accept playing second fiddle to anyone, so she wouldn't accept the vice presidency on a nomination. i think her candidacy is doomed. it was made to be something inevitable and because she was the front runner she gets the most pressure on her. this email thing won't go away, and if nothing else, shows a massive lapse in judgement abilities, but i think it's far more nefarious than that. she knew what she was doing. but the fallout isn't even just her emails. now she has an insecure server that is sending tons of messages to and fro the state department to the state servers, and when we have john kerry just a few weeks ago saying he thought the chinese and russians were reading all of his emails that were secured, this is a much bigger breach. not just a breach into what she sent and recieved, but who knows if the chinese or russians used her server as a backdoor to get into the rest of the state department. this is why it won't go away. other people have been prosecuted for less. for example, clinton's husband pardoned former cia director jon duetch for much less. he had a government computer at home that had some classified material on it, discovered a few days after he left office. and while that case moved quickly, unlike hillary's case, it wasn't as significant. still, he was working out a plea deal when his former boss rescued him. obama won't pardon hillary, or, if he does, it will be after someone else gets the nomination.
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Re: Joe Biden...will he or won't he? yeah or nay?

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Re: Joe Biden...will he or won't he? yeah or nay?

Postby Saz » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:59 pm

DO IT FOR BEAU JOE, DO IT FOR BEAU!!!
DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: Joe Biden...will he or won't he? yeah or nay?

Postby John Galt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:04 pm

i do have a link, but the boston hearld link is very old and so they don't give all the info http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinio ... ling_homes

it's mentioned in NR article (conservative magazine) http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... na-johnson

and on huffpo http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/0 ... 64820.html (but that just links to the article that's no longer there)

as for the native american stuff, Havard said they had a "native american professor" because of what she said, so she did profit from it. she claimed she didn't know why harvard said that she was the school's first "woman of color"... until the boston hearlad found out that she put it on job applications http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabet ... ntroversy/ harvard made federal filings based upon her claims
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Re: Joe Biden...will he or won't he? yeah or nay?

Postby The Comrade » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:08 pm

biden-biden is my ideal ticket

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Postby John Galt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:11 pm

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