Obama to propose higher refugee limits for Syrians

[Dylan]

*shrug* we won't agree on this. I think treating individuals differently on the basis of their race, religion, national origin, etc. is fundamentally wrong. You disagree. That's a gap that won't be bridged.

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[Dylan]

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[NAB]

We live in a country founded by religious extremists. We have precedent on our side.

[Dylan]

It's a fair point ex. But from an ideological perspective i would rather deal with those consequences later than discriminate against even on person because of their religion now. That's antithetical to my views.

I also note that your theory can be extrapolated out in very uncomfortable ways. I.e. you could argue that it would be liberal to imprison all black males at birth because it would lower crime against black people, thus protecting a minority group. You could argue that, to protect women's right to choose, we should deport evangelical christians.

Using illiberal means to achieve liberal aims is a slippery slope.

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[Saz]

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"*

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