I hear ya on the western part. that was my big drawback but honestly in person that color is pretty easy to dress down to polite society tastes. it wears in a lot too so gets less boxy looking. i'm a big fan.
i think for hte next one i'm going slimmer. like this but not gucci and not at that price poitn obviously.
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