Merkel is Time's person of the year 2015

[Dylan]

I like how Galt's been relegated to cheerleading Sazari and avoiding any substance whatsoever. I guess it's good to know one's limits.

[John Galt]

saz has been more than adequate and describing why you are entirely wrong on this issue. i think saz is right to point out that actions like this, where the leaders actively go against the will of their electorate, are going to be a major problem for europe, not just in their actual policies being a mess, but the revolt by the european electorate. merkel herself has taken a bold stance this entire year about being welcoming for refugees. she was named person of the year largely because of this issue where she was seen as standing firm against the waves. this is retreat from that stance. it's an orderly retreat, yes, but this was defeat for her. and she's making claims about stuff yes. but when she goes and makes these promises, if they don't deliver on it to what the german people want, which is restrictions to immigration, and don't "do enough", there will be a popular revolt at the voting booth

[Saz]

[Dylan]

[Dylan]

[exploited]

That's true. The Cuban and Colombian population in Miami were pretty successful at finding a niche.

[Dylan]

[spacemonkey]

Actually we should feel fortunate about the refugee situation. Why? It is 100% a man made problem, and has a 100% chance of being fixed if we choose to fix it. On the other hand if the refugees were fleeing because a fifty mile wide and two hundred mile long lava spewing fissure opened up, we would have a 100% chance of not doing a dam thing about it, other then getting out of the way. Actually, some stupidity can be fixed. Now, don't that make you feel a bit better,lol.

[spacemonkey]