Start Hedging (Trade War)

[Kane]

UK is still going along with it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47274643

https://www.ft.com/content/0aa89d34-3dd ... 761f19a974

Looks like they're moderating.

[Kane]

https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... r-airspace

I like that the entire international community is jumping on board with this as the FAA issues notices indicating everything is "a ok." lol

Our institutions are degrading and their standing is less and less every year.

[exploited]

Er... not really sure what you're talking about. Of all the American agencies that the international community doesn't trust, the FAA is not one of them. Once your scientists and investigators have gathered the data - which we trust - and reached a conclusion, Canada will make a decision on whether or not to pull the plane from our fleets. So far, among various Canadian airliners, this plane hasn't had any problems, having flown millions of miles. More likely than a problem with the aircraft is that they aren't being properly maintained by the poor countries where this keeps on happening. We'll know once the investigation is complete.

I mean, yeah, Trump sucks, and faith in the US government is at an all-time low... but this simply doesn't extend to air worthiness. The US created this industry and has set international standards for safety for decades. Outside of pandering to domestic concerns (i.e. hysterical soccer moms scared to get on a plane now) or trying to get an economic boost for your own plane manufacturers, there is zero reason to not trust the FAA in these circumstances. In fact, I'd wager that the FAA has more flight knowledge, institutional safeguards and a sounder record than the agencies of all of these countries combined.

At the very worst, countries are pulling these planes out of, in Mitt Romney's words, "an abundance of caution." There is no reason to imagine it has anything to do with decreasing "faith" in the FAA.

[Kane]

[exploited]

The US is, so far, refusing to bend to anti-science hysteria. That is a good thing, not a bad thing.

[Spider]

It's not about the plane, or safety, it's about backhanding Boeing. They don't miss an opportunity to slap American tech companies around either.

This isn't the first time unwarranted hysteria has grounded an aircraft.

[exploited]

US is now the lone holdout - Canada has grounded these planes upon receipt of new data from the investigation, which indicates there is now evidence of a problem with the plane, rather than with procedures, training or personnel. I wonder if it was in fact the same issue that caused the other crash?

[Kane]

I'm hearing that pilots have submitted multiple complaints to an anonymous FAA channel regarding the anti stall feature that for whatever reason momentarily causes the plane to nose dive necessitating manual control. I'm also hearing that the training manual for this plane is woefully inadequate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes ... overy/amp/

That's from November regarding the training manual telling pilots how to react when the anti stall feature is triggered inappropriately. Kinda weird that you wouldn't just try to stop that from happening if the end result is a potential nosedive....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

Here's the info on the complaints.

Sounds like the Ethiopian pilots that crashed had the training necessary to correct for this as well.

[Kane]

[Spider]

Lol and there goes the US.