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Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst Now

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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby exploited » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:45 pm

Do better bait. It was believable in the beginning but you pushed it too hard.
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby Saz » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:55 pm

DON'T BE A TOUGH GUY. DON'T BE A FOOL! I WILL CALL YOU LATER.
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby John Galt » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:34 am

I just found out surgical masks, which are not discussed, are made from wood pulp but n95 are made from petroleum products

Consequently f**k Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Naw just kidding still think it's a dumb f**k move

Also, lol at Ford saying he was gonna make his own masks, with blackjack and hookers and making them 96. Ive only seen 95 and 99 masks, so it's cool that they are going to make an entirely.new.type of mask
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby exploited » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:45 am

Dougie is our special boi.

And yes, I too have been corrected about the pulp. This development should be amusing for Saz.
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby John Galt » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:28 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comm ... urce=share

I feel like a lot of this stuff is Russian disinformation campaigns
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby exploited » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:21 am

You're joking right?
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby John Galt » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:17 am

The link is about how multiple accusations against the United States were fabrications, from officials in Germany (confiscation of masks), France (outbidding masks), and Canada (something about masks not going to Quebec but they were in quebec, in Montreal, stuck in customs or something). I doubt they made it up themselves.

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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby exploited » Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:38 pm

I think you may have misinterpreted what happened to begin with, as I suspect many have.

If the impression that people had was that the US government got on the phone and said "seize that particular plane with 200,000 masks on it," that isn't what happened. If the impression was that 3M in particular was responsible for it, that seems to be a read in assumption of the reader, and not really suggested by anyone with direct knowledge of the events. The German Minister did suggest it in that instance, but that was very quickly walked back.

What likely happened is that third party resellers, not 3M, were receiving higher bids from the US, and so decided to alter their destinations. Germany describes this as piracy but it is actually just standard scummy reseller behaviour. At no point was there any clear evidence of actual seizures. Just the US flexing by bidding on products already bought and paid for. In fact, many American companies are so large and wealthy that they are able to outbid whole nation states, offering double or triple price to third party resellers. This is grossly immoral, short-sighted and directly damages any international response by encouraging reselling and pitting nation against nation, but it definitely isn't "piracy."

Further to the point, while the Russians could benefit from spreading such disinformation, and while they certainly are engaged in it right now, this seems mostly like people reading headlines and not the articles attached to the headlines. And I'm not talking about you, I mean people who think the US was, like, stealing planes off of runways with special forces or some insane shit like that.
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby exploited » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:08 pm

Basically, to summarize, it's like this:

The entire neighbourhood was on fire, except for the US. The US watched and did nothing as the fire crept up their yard, then their driveway, then their front porch. It is now spread throughout the house and the US is panicking. So instead of calling the fire department in advance, to get the big trucks out and spraying down houses before they start on fire, the US is now sucking up every fire extinguisher and smoke alarm and fire-resistant garb in the world. They are paying 3-4x the price, with the bulk of buying by private actors (because their health care operates on a for-profit basis, and making margins on lives is par for the course and completely unremarkable). Nobody else can get fire extinguishers or smoke alarms because the fat orange retard at the top of the hill is buying them all, while simultaneously closing off the roads to the local WalMart strip-mall, and screaming at the top of his lungs that there is no fire.

Some in the neighbourhood are calling it theft, or considering it an act of aggression. It is just a prime example of an irrational outcome as a result of various actors taking individually rational actions - trying to secure needed supplies. A real "tragedy of the commons" problem. The US in particular is being criticized because, before their house caught on fire, they were holding giant block parties and inviting all their friends and calling them retards for worrying about fires, and are now making it extremely difficult to arrange any sort of response that doesn't value lives according to economic power per capita. Rather than organizing a neighbourhood committee to dole out masks and medical supplies according to some logical scheme, the US is letting third-party resellers dictate terms, because they can afford it. Well, nobody else can, so they're getting f**k. Now the Europeans are doing the exact same f**k thing, and so whenever they cry, remember they are full of shit, and also cowardly, barbaric, weak and pathetic. Buy up all those German masks and gowns, who cares, they wouldn't think twice about depriving you of those things. But considering you share a f**k duplex, you may not want to do that to Canada.
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus 2019-nCoV - Prepare for the Worst No

Postby Kane » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:37 am

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ke-dossier

Here is Trump tweeting on a shortage of supplies for Hospitals evidenced in an IG report.

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