Re: all the rape commentary

by **The Comrade** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:41 pm

dress like a slut = asking for rape

glad we went back in time to the 50s. the twentyfirst century was getting quite dull.

by **eric** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:13 pm

by **exploited** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:17 pm

Oh, okay, Well I agree with that: if you dress provocatively, you should expect male attention. But we both agree, presumably, that such attention shouldn't become sexual harassment or assault... I mean it's one thing to check out and flirt with a hot girl wearing sexy clothes, it's another to say nasty things or get derogatory.

by **eric** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:17 pm

by **exploited** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:20 pm

Not that I haven't myself said derogatory things in my younger years... :))

by **John Galt** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:06 pm

by **Mathurin** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:56 am

by **Darkhorse** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:35 am

If you're driving home under the influence and a cop pulls you over, you can't tell him that you're drunk so you didn't have the capacity to make the decision to drive. If you get drunk and max out your credit cards during a night on the town, you can't call up American Express in the morning and say you didn't have the capacity to make the decision to max out your cards. When someone makes the decision to drink, they are accepting responsibility for the decisions they will make while drunk. Sex is not an exception to this rule.

Women have been fighting for sexual autonomy for centuries. The idea that men have a responsibility to protect women from their own sexuality could not be more patronizing. The notion that a man who gets consent from a drunk woman should be considered a rapist and branded as a sexual predator for the rest of his life is ridiculous.

If drunk people do not have the capacity to consent to sex, and two drunk people decide to have sex, then who raped who? Did they rape each other? Did the rapes cancel themselves out? It seems pretty clear that the push to change the definition of rape is aimed at taking responsibilities from women and transferring them to men. A woman made a mistake so a man should have to pay for it.

Advocating self-responsibility in a rape discussion will get you accused of blaming the victim in no time, but that's the only solution. Relying on strangers to protect you is not an option in this imperfect world of ours.

by **lil bit** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:48 am

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