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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

Postby dontworrybehappy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:17 pm

"Police protection" is an oxymoron. Gun laws are like masturbation, they both feel really good, but after you're done you realize you haven't accomplished anything."
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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

Postby The Comrade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:23 pm

which claims do you want me to prove?

and no, you did not prove that the slums of louisiana are a higher proportion of the population and therefore lead to higher crime. what you posted was a link affirming they have the highest crime rate in the country.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

Postby The Dharma Bum » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:29 pm

The actual problem is we no longer do anything to help people who have mental illness. The streets are literally full of people who would be in some type of institutional setting 50 years ago.

When that movie "One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest" came out and there was an immediate backlash against mental health care in an institutional setting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... iatry.html

Also, the movie "Colors" pretty much single-handedly spread the gang culture to every small town in America.

Maybe we should be talking about banning movies. I think a better causal connection could be established.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

Postby Ben Huh » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:42 pm

..."if the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of a divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of shit."
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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

Postby Ben Huh » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:57 pm

...I should make my point more clearer.

IMO restrictive gun laws have little to no effect on violent gun crimes. What has a greater impact on those crime rates are extreme poverty. Look at the map Dude put up. Four of the most gun-injury related states in teh US are in the SE, an area not exactly know for having wealthy citizens. This is the reason I state that very restrictive gun laws are pointless. If your state has a ton of poverty, which always results in higher crimes rates in general, restricting or outright banning guns is not even a band-aid on the violence issue until you attack your poverty issues. People in extreme poverty are literally in an everyday survival mode, and for those that commit violence because of that banning guns means they'll just switch to knives, etc. When in survival mode, you always adapt to survive and nothing leads me to believe that outright banning guns in poor states or areas without addressing poverty is going to do anything. The poor there will adapt to survive and find other means of committing violence.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

Postby dontworrybehappy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:45 pm

"Police protection" is an oxymoron. Gun laws are like masturbation, they both feel really good, but after you're done you realize you haven't accomplished anything."
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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

Postby Ben Huh » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:48 pm

..."if the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of a divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of shit."
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Re: Connecticut school shooting - 27 dead

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