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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

Postby Dylan » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:20 pm

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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

Postby J.K. Gregg » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:27 pm

:))

Someone just lock this thread.
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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

Postby Dylan » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:02 pm

No! It's an interesting thread. I'll stop messing around.
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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

Postby WizardfromOz » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:31 pm

Well the US is a wake up to the marriage scam. If the person is from Vietnam for instance their is virtually no chance of getting past the Embassy interview. And the questions you can get asked are extremely invasive, right down to preferred sexual positions. And if it is a third country immigration, forget it, aint gonna happen.

Being from Australia, the process was a lot more relaxed than it could have been
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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

Postby J.K. Gregg » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:53 am

Wealth isn't just objects or money, but the values that you act to gain in the course of living life.
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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

Postby The Dharma Bum » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:14 am

If you wanted to have an objective basis for our doctrine of behavior then you would have to look to the natural world, in which predation on the weak or infirm serves the highest biological purpose.

Is that a good objective ethical standard for human society?
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Re: Huge Amounts Spent on Immigration, Study Finds

Postby J.K. Gregg » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:27 am

No, but that's because you're turning to the nature of lower beasts; animals that aren't capable of conceptualization, integration, and rational thought. If you're interested in having a discussion about objective morality, you can PM me or start a thread in the Philosophy forum.

I think anyone should be able to come to the United States and make a living for themselves. I think this because I know that free trade is positive-sum, not zero-sum. If someone needs their lawn mowed, there is an immigrant who will mow it for a price, and at the end of the day, each is wealthier; one has a pristine lawn, the other has 100 bucks. So when people justify limiting the free movement of people based on the idea that somehow wealth is finite, and that at some point, a person wouldn't be able to trade with anyone, it seems preposterous to me. Our economy is so large, our interests so varied, our appetites so diverse that we have plenty of opportunities for immigrants. If there is no demand for lawn mowers, then move to another industry. Make art, build building, go to trade school, etc.
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