Yet more evidence that CO2 leads to warming

[John Galt]

no idea what the hell you're talking about. link?

the data are the satellite temperature data on top of the IPCC's amazingly inaccurate predictions

here's the predictions: http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_dat ... TS1FjA3tQg

here's the satellite data: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/

let me know how their predictions match up with reality

the problem with this stuff is that they should pic a single temp and be held to it and then explain why it would change X temperature. like if they say "if cloud cover is to increase by Y percent then the temperature will be effected by (some calculation)." then we're able to really talk about if their predictions are correct

instead they give a huge range so they can claim they were correct even if it hit the best estimate side

but the funniest shit about all of it?

it didn't even hit those range of estimates as it was wildly over estimated. they predicted 0.3C increase per decade if emissions stayed the same (they increased), with at least 0.2 and at most 0.5. emissions INCREASED and the temperature? well it increased, but at a rate of 0.18. had temperature increased closer to 0.5 they would have been right (because of increased CO2 = increased temperature. this is their damn thesis) but instead it seems to have not gone as they thought it would. which means they need to come up with a better model and come back after their model proves itself over 30 to 50 years.

the ipcc are laughably wrong

[Indy]

Simply pathetic, the denial at work here.

I'm curious where some of you live, where you would be that clueless to the insane weather shifts/records being set in the past few years--you know, just like they said would happen.

Apparently it's more important to strap the bomb vest of denial to one's self rather than ever admit that some "liberal" was right about something. So that's what we get.

All the while, acting as either willing or unwilling dupes for mega-polluter industrialists like the Koch Bros., who believe the world is the receptacle for their corporate bowel movements because they can't be bothered to take any hit to the bottom line. Hey, who cares anyway, right? They'll be dead and gone by the time the whole thing has gone beyond salvageable--let those people worry about the disaster they've created. If it feels good, keep doing it right?

Ultra-hippie, consequence-free liberalism.

From... so-called "conservatives."

It's become quite clear in recent years that the only thing you have to do to get people to literally screw themselves is label any opposing view/data as "liberal."

That's a neat trick.

[John Galt]

they didn't say it would happen though.

they bet it would come within the spread and it came in below the spread. sure, temps still went up (and then plateaued since last century) but that doesn't make them correct. if i say that the temperature was going to raise by 100 degrees on average over the course of the next 20 years and it raised by .05 degrees would i be correct? of course not. neither are they; they predicted something and it didn't happen. something similar happened but that means their models are wrong. if their models are wrong then all they say is wrong. horse shoes and hand grenades, not science

how is it that the people that are "deniers" are the ones pointing to the actual satellite data and comparing it against the soothsaying predictions of the IPCC and showing that they don't match up? if it doesn't match up then YOU are the denier, not people saying the truth which is that the predictions were incorrect. the thing about science is there is no consensus; it's right or it's wrong. it's not if you feel like weather was different now than it was before because that's your feelings influenced by time and distance from previous events (and also is more due to the change in arctic oscillation than anything else by the way, which is, for all we know, cyclical)

[Medius]

[John Galt]

[Indy]

[Medius]

[Indy]

[John Galt]

the satellite data contradicts the predictions

you are the denier

[The Tooth]